Aximmetry input

 

Hi, I got a few problems and need some help.


1. I wwant to get my Alesis v61 in aximmetry as an midi controller for triggers. The triggers go directly from my Unreal project in the left root panel and then I get the trigger in the Dashboard.Aximmetry input

From there I right click and press assign to midi. After that everything freezes and I only get the message from my computer that aximmetry does not react. These are my settings for the controller: Aximmetry input

The error also occures in a new compound (project).

I have also reseted the settings in the startup window.

Is there anything I can do to assign my midi keyboard to the triggers?




2. Is there any way how I can scale my input for a billboard bigger (so just the input from my real camera that I use to capture the real world footage) and how can I make the billboard steady and not moving with the camera? 



3. The last question is: I want to use my pioneer dj DDJ 400 to dj in my project. To dj I am using the rekordbox software. If I go to my record pannel I can select Audio 1 and then I select my usb audio interface but when I want to record I get no sound. I also get no sign of audio in my project. How can I get the sound that comes out of the rekordbox software in my aximmetry project?

Thank you!


   Tornado

 
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TwentyStudios
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You can scale your billboard in the same place where you set the billboard position. In order to move your physical camera instead of using just virtual camera moves you’ll need a camera tracking system. 

 
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Eifert@Aximmetry
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Hi Tornado,

1.

I'm sorry to hear that the freezing issue persists.
One more thing you might try is selecting only one device for the Device watched when learning option. This device should be the one you wish to assign buttons to. Then check if Aximmetry still freezes:

If the problem continues, please consider writing to us at sales@aximmetry.com, and include a link to this forum thread. We will then be able to investigate your issue more directly if you're comfortable with that.


2.

I assume you are using a virtual, non-tracked camera. If you're curious why the billboard turns toward the camera when the camera moves, it's due to the Look At Camera parameter.  You can disable this parameter by setting it to Off, which will prevent the billboard from moving. Keep in mind, however, that this may make it more apparent to the audience that the billboard is a flat plane.
As suggested by TwentyStudios, another option is to use a camera tracking system. This would allow you to physically move the camera in the studio, rather than moving it virtually in Aximmetry. By doing so, the talent will always appear from the correct angle and perspective.
You can resize the billboard using the Scal parameter in the Transformation.


3.

To use the Input Device parameter's input, you have to turn off the Camera button on the AUDIO panel:
Aximmetry input
 If you don’t do this, it will use the audio connected to the Record_3-Audio compound's Cam Audio pins.

The Audio will come out from the Record_3-Audio compound's Audio pins:
Aximmetry input
You can use various audio modules available in Aximmetry for further editing or outputting the audio.

Warmest regards,

 
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Tornado
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1. The assigning from midi works now. Thank you very much for the help


2. I got the Billboard steady now also thank you for the help. 

- With making the Input bigger I mean the input video and not the billboard itself. So just how I can scale up the input in the billboard?


3.I have tried everything you said but I dont get any audio. There is no sign of audio in aximmetry when I turn on the light symbol in the audio levels pannel or if I record and watch it. 

 
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Eifert@Aximmetry
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Hi Tornado,

1.

Can you confirm if the freeze was resolved by selecting only one device for the Device Watched When Learning option? Or something else fix it? We're eager to pinpoint the source of the issue and address it accordingly.

2.

It seems like you're looking for the crop function. By removing unused spaces with the CROP panel, you effectively enlarge the input. You can find more information about it here:
https://aximmetry.com/learn/virtual-production-workflow/preparation-of-the-production-environment-phase-i/green-screen-production/virtual-camera-workflow/cropping/

3.

You might try retrieving the audio using an Audio Input module instead of the Record_3-Audio compound. However, I doubt this will solve the problem.
Do you receive audio from the USB audio interface when using other applications, such as Windows' Sound Recorder? If so, could you provide the name of the device and its format settings in Windows?

Warmest regards,

 
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Tornado
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1. Yes the problem have been solved by selecting only one device.


2. I got it now. The article helped me thank you.


3. The name is M-Audio M-Track 2X2M. The format settings of the input device is 2-Channel, 32 Bit, 44100 Hz (Studio Quality) and the output device is 32 Bit, 44100 Hz (Studio Quality)

 
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Eifert@Aximmetry
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Hi Tornado,

Thank you for reporting back.

1.

In hindsight, does Aximmetry freeze if you only deselect this option?:

It seems the Alesis V61 might be sending the same MIDI signal twice, which is why there are two V61 devices listed there. Or maybe you have two Alesis V61 devices connected to your computer?

3.

We are investigating the audio issue. In the meantime, you could try setting the format to 24-bit; that might work.

Warmest regards,

 
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Tornado
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1. No I only have one Alesis V61. No it does not freeze only when I have the two same midi inputs on.


3. Thank you for investigating. The 24-bit audio does not work. 

 
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Eifert@Aximmetry
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Hi Tornado,

1.

That probably means you have two drivers installed on your Windows system for this device. I recommend opening Windows Device Manager and uninstalling one of the drivers, as having duplicates may cause issues with other software using the driver.

But before that, if during the freeze of assigning MIDI, Aximmetry prompts you to create a dump file with a window similar to this:
Aximmetry input

Then please share the created dump file by sending it to sales@aximmetry.com and reference this forum post in your email. Although the dump file is large, you can utilize a free file-sharing service like Google Drive to share it. This could assist us in resolving the freeze issue, even in rare cases like yours.

3.

I didn't realize before that this is an ASIO device. You need to utilize the "/asio" command-line switch to use ASIO audio input devices instead of DirectX ones. You can easily add this command-line switch by creating a new shortcut for Aximmetry Composer and adding "/asio" in the Target field:
Aximmetry input

But before you do that, can you run Aximmetry without the "/asio" option and let us know how the M-Audio M-Track 2X2M device appears in the Audio Device list?:

My understanding is that it is an ASIO-only device, so it should not appear there under normal circumstances.

Warmest regards,

 
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Tornado
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1. When the error occured I didnt get the window with the error it just loads and I can only fix it with restarting my pc so I cant send it to the email.


3. I have run aximmetry without the /asio and this is what devices are shown:


Aximmetry input

(The WASAPI: Microphone Array (AMD Audio Device) is an usb microphone that is not connected)

 
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Eifert@Aximmetry
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Hi,

3.

If the device is shown there it should be functioning properly.
Can you confirm whether it works with other applications like Windows Sound Recorder? There are numerous online posts regarding issues with the M-Audio M-Track 2X2M's driver not functioning correctly, and there are different solutions to these issues.

Warmest regards,

 
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Tornado
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The device is shown but I dont get audio into aximmetry. I have tried it with windows sound recorder and there it works (in windows sound recorder I can only chose the line input from the audio interface). I have also added audio volume in my unreal scene but it doesnt work either. I dont know what I can do because I have tried different methodes to get audio but I dont get any. 

I also dont want the line inputs of the interface to get sound but the sound of my pc or more specific the sound of the rekorbox software. 

Can you show me how you would connect everything and set everything up that I get the audio from the rekorbox software in aximmetry? Maybe I have done some things the wrong way.


Warmest regards

 
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Eifert@Aximmetry
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Hi,

Once you have selected the correct device in the Audio Input module, it should receive input without even anything being connected to the module. You can even use the peek function by holding down the CTRL key to see just that:

However, to hear the sound, you will need an Audio Out module. Alternatively, you can expose the audio with a video if the video output can embed audio.
Additionally, you could use an Audio Peeker module to continuously monitor the audio input:
Aximmetry input

If there was sound present in the Windows Sound Recorder, then you should be getting sound in Aximmetry as well. I am perplexed as to why this issue could occur. Maybe the Windows Sound Recorder is using the ASIO input.


Currently, getting audio directly from Unreal Engine is not supported. However, you can easily add the sound from Unreal to Aximmetry by using a Virtual Audio Driver. More information can be found here: https://my.aximmetry.com/post/3723-how-to-get-the-audio-output-from-ue-in-a

This same driver should be used to obtain sound from rekordbox software instead of using line inputs.
I'm not entirely sure if you need to install two instances of the driver because Unreal or if one will be sufficient for your setup.

Warmest regards,

 
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Tornado
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Hi, I think I know the problem. This is what I get when I want to select an audio input. The M-Audio M-Track2X2M is my interface. You can sse in the picture that it only shows the two line inputs of the interface. Is there any way how I can not get the line inputs but the sound of my pc?

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Eifert@Aximmetry
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Hi,

If I understand correctly, you're using another software to open Line 1/2 (M-Audio M-Track 2X2M) input for audio editing or processing, and you want to capture that processed sound with Aximmetry on the same computer. Capturing output sound from other software generally requires a workaround because Windows will inevitably handle that audio stream as an output, which means no software can access it as an input.

I suggest using a Virtual Audio Driver as a workaround, as mentioned in my previous comment. You can find more information on Virtual Audio Driver in this thread: https://my.aximmetry.com/post/3723-how-to-get-the-audio-output-from-ue-in-a

Warmest regards,

 
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Tornado
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Hi, 

I am sorry I think I havent discribed it correctly. I dont want to use another software. I want to get to sound from the software rekordbox (rekordbox is a dj software) in my recordings or stream in the scene. So basically do I have to set anything up to get another input than the Line 1/2... input because the line input only works if I plug a microphone in but I want to get the sound from the software or from my pc.


Warmest Regards

 
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Eifert@Aximmetry
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Hi,

I didn't mean to use Recordbox instead of Aximmetry. What I meant is how to use both at once on the same PC.

In Windows, there are separate channels for sound output and input. Software applications are designed to receive audio through the input channel and send audio through the output channel. To capture the output sound from one software and use it as input for another on the same PC, a workaround is necessary.

I recommend using a Virtual Audio Driver for this purpose. This driver creates both a virtual output and a virtual input channel, effectively transmitting audio from the virtual output to the virtual input. This method bypasses the system limitation preventing output sounds from being used as inputs.

What I think you should set up is that the Rekordbox is configured to use the Line 1/2 (M-Audio M-Track 2X2M) input sound channel. It applies effects and then outputs the processed audio to the Virtual Audio Driver's output channel. In Aximmetry, you can access this by selecting the Virtual Audio Driver's input channel. This setup allows you to use the processed audio from Rekordbox within Aximmetry seamlessly.

Warmest regards,

 
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Tornado
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Now I got it im sorry. Do you think with an eye on performance that it is better to run rekordbox on another pc and if so how would that work? Or do you have a better solutions for the best performance?


Warmest Regards

 
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Eifert@Aximmetry
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Hi,

I am not familiar with the Rekordbox software, but if it is only used for audio processing, it is likely that it won't significantly impact your system's performance. I suggest testing your setup by running both Aximmetry and Rekordbox together and then running Aximmetry alone to compare performance.

Of course, the best performance is if you use more computers. You can easily add another computer dedicated to running Rekordbox, and connect the two computers using an auxiliary cable. However, this will introduce additional audio delay, so you may need to delay the video in Aximmetry to keep it synchronized, for example by using a Delayer module in Aximmetry.

Warmest regards,

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