I have a question about the 4k setting.

 

Hi.

I have a question about the 4k setting.

I wonder if there is a way to distribute 4K to 4 HDs and then combine 4 HDs into 4K hardware or software again.

I'm attaching a picture.

* The camera connected to the AJA HA5-4K using HDMI (In) and then to the server with 4 mini SDI (Out).

(The server is currently using DELTA-3G-help-d80.)

Thanks!


   Basictech

 
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Ahmed@Aximmetry
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Hello,

by distributing do you mean downscaling it to 1080p and delivering the same signal 4 times? Please elaborate so that we can understand what you want better.

Best regards,

 
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Basictech
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Hello,

I think there was a mistake in the explanation.

We are testing to set it to 4K.

I have attached a diagram.

I wonder how to set it in Aximmetry when setting the hardware like the diagram.

Thanks!


 
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Ahmed@Aximmetry
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Hello,

I think you need to set up your cards properly as what you want to achieve is not natively supported by Aximmetry.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you want is splitting the 4K signal of your camera to 4 3G SDI ports and then combining the signal to a 4K one inside of Aximmetry. For that, you need to first set up your AJA card accordingly using the Mini-Config software. Then, you need to do the same thing for your Deltacast card.  (it needs a few PowerShell commands that you can find in the manual. Here is a link to the config section 6.1: 

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1980868/Deltacast-Delta-12g-Series.html?page=43#manual

If you are not familiar with using PowerShell, you can contact Deltacast support for assistance.

If both cards are set up properly, you won't need to do anything special in Aximmetry, as everything would be done on Hardware level.

Hope this help!

Best regards,



 
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Basictech
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Hi

You are right to understand.

I checked the connection with AJA-HA5-4K. 

But after that, I don't know how to set it in Aximmetry.

Should I set it up like the attached picture?

If it's not my way, how do I set up Camera Input in Aximmetry?

Thanks!

 
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TwentyStudios
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@Basictech: I think you need to set up your Deltacast card to act as a single 4K input source and use that as the input in Aximmetry. Getting a 4K signal split into discrete SDI 3G instead of quad 4K SDI inputs won’t guarantee that the 4 split inputs are in perfect sync and will probably consume more CPU.

 
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Ahmed@Aximmetry
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Hello, 

indeed as I and Twenty explained you need to setup your Deltacast card to combine those 4 SDI signal coming from your AJA card into one input that Aximmetry can use.

Best regards,

 
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Ahmed@Aximmetry
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Hello,

After investigating the case further, we found that the signal should be handled on the software level ,and not on a hardware level. That's because the payload of the signal does not contain information that tells the card (in this case the Deltacast card) that it's a 4K quadrant signal. So, what I said about the Deltacast cards settings is invalid in this case, since the card is unable to identify that it is receiving a 4K signal via the 4 3G SDI ports. The software (Aximmetry in this case) has to include an option that allows you to assemble those signals into a 4K one.

We will consider adding this feature for Deltacast cards. Keep an eye on our latest releases on the software version history page , where you can check our latest additions to Aximmetry.

Best regards,

 
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Basictech
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Thank you for your answer. Ahmed

Are you saying that the option will be added when the next release is updated?

Thanks!


 
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Ahmed@Aximmetry
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Hello, 

we added it to our feature request. We can't promise you that it will be added in the next release because it depends on the complexity of the implementation. 

Best regards,

 
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Eifert@Aximmetry
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Hi Basictech,

Aximmetry has been updated to version 2022.3.0 as of today.
The new version comes with quad-link support for Deltacast cards:

  • Deltacast SDK upgraded to v6.20. IMPORTANT: you have to update the Deltacast driver to v6.20 in order to use your Deltacast board with this version of Aximmetry.
  • Allowed using quad-link 4K inputs and outputs on Deltacast cards. Also added AUTO Quad mode for automatic quad-link input format detection.

Warmest regards,

 
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Nick Bryant
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Hello! I've reviewed carefully of the above solutions.  I've hit exactly the same problem as Basictech did.  The difference is that I use AJA KONA 4 (video card) with 4 BNC SDI-3G signals inputting from a "Teranex Mini-12G SDI to Quad SDI" to get the 12G 4K signal from a BMD URSA. 

I've searched the website and I didn't see any sort of update of Aximmetry quad-link support for "AJA capture card" as you guys did for Deltacast cards above.  I just cannot find the info. on my end. Could you kindly send me the URL?

or Could you tell me how to solve the same problem as we want a 4K SIGNAL from the BMD URSA to be composited into the 3D environment in Aximmetry through the aforementioned hardware settings. Thank you!


Nick

 
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Nick Bryant
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I've attached my UI Here FYI. 


 
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TwentyStudios
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AJA works differently. For the AJA Kona you need to load the 4K firmware. This is explained in the official AJA documentation:


https://www.aja.com/assets/support/files/4171/en/AJA_KONA_Manual_v13.0.pdf


Note that this gives you a single 4K input and no output. The Decklink 8K Pro supports up to 4 4K I/O signals. 

 
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Nick Bryant
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Hi, TwentyStudios, 

Thank you for your attention.  Before sending my last post I just finished reviewing the AJA manual of the below version.

https://www.aja.com/assets/support/files/7917/en/AJA_Manual_KONA-Series_v16.0.pdf

And sorry I didn't see the info. related to the question I raised in the -100 pages.  4K (the up-to-date) Firmware Ver. was always on my AJA setting, you can see it from my screenshot below. That's why I wonder if this is a software matter or a hardware matter?  Or if it is a matter of updating Aximmetry quad-link support for "AJA capture card" as the A team did for Deltacast cards above?



I just don't know how to assemble the four 3G signals into one 12G/4K SIGNAL for Aximmetry input.  As you can see in the screenshot below when I switch to Aximmetry under such AJA Input setting the signals are still split into 4*1080p, not 1*4k to feed a demanding shooting in Aximmetry. 

Thank you. 




 
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TwentyStudios
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Sorry, I don’t know. But AJA has been supported in Aximmetry for a long time, and I’m almost certain that it works differently than the Deltacast when it comes to Quad SDI inputs. Have you searched the forum here for answers? 

 
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Nick Bryant
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Thank you. I'm gonna draft a new post to ask for help in the forum. I believe VP professionals already found the solution to Aximmetry quad-link support for "AJA capture card" cuz it's a must-have protocol to deliver a 4K resolution feed. 

 
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Eifert@Aximmetry
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Hi Nick,

We have written an answer to your new post here: https://my.aximmetry.com/post/3179-do-we-have-aximmetry-quad-link-support-f

Warmest regards,

 
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Nick Bryant
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Hi, Eifert, 

GOT THE DETAILED MANUAL IN THIS POST.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE EFFORT YOU PUT IN YOUR WORK TO HELP OUR STUDIO. THANK YOU.